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Failure of Short Sales To Close

Over the years I have worked my share of Short Sales. I always spent the time to qualify the Seller before moving forward. This just kind of seemed automatic to me.

Yet a couple of months ago a Buyer that I am working with called me about a property that she saw on my web site. Like most first time Buyer's Susie is real enthusiastic. And rightly so with this home.

It is surrounded by homes in the High $300's to upper $500's. Yet its sales price was only $209,000. I checked the listing and no indication of a Short Sale, photo's looked good as well.

Showing instructions are Call agent. I make the call on every number I can find leaving messages every where. Two days pass And I finally get a call back. I set the appointment and call the Buyer.

Just like the photo's this home is stunning at least for the price and area. It is hard to keep Susie from doing cartwheels in the Living Room.  Later that evening we write the offer, theorizing that the reason this gem is still on the market was the incompetency of the agent who takes 2 plus days to call back.

To be on the safe side I put a few caveats in the sale to protect the Buyer. Things like Sale is subject to Seller providing documentation of liens and or amounts owed on the property. In the event that the Seller owes more than a negotiated sales price Seller is capable and willing to bring cash in to close.

Got the agents attention on that one. Three days later the agent requests a meeting between the Seller herself and I.

It took 45 minutes to drag it out of them but the reality was the Seller owed almost $300,000 on the home. The listing agent had never asked the question.

To this date that the listing is still on the market. The agent has never had any communication what so ever with the two lenders. She drops the price on a regular basis it is now down around $150,000 or so.

It is absolutely true that the single biggest failure of Short Sales to close is often the Agent.

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Comments

What is the home worth?  From your description of the area it could be worth 300K!  What is the real value and is it still a Short Sale?

Posted by Gene Riemenschneider East Contra Costa Home Sales 01492725 (Home Point Real Estate) 10 months ago

Woow the agent seems to be clueless as to what it take to successfully close a short sale. 

 

Posted by Cristina Salcedo, Anaheim Real Estate O C California (REMAX METRO Real Estate Services) 10 months ago

Gene,

Real Market Value is $325,000. Yes now she does have it advertised as a Short Sale. Two biggest problems is that she never calls back and she hasn't done the upfront work. Seller until recently was still making the payments on time.

Posted by Downtown Portland Real Estate Broker~Herb Hamilton,CDPE (RE/MAX Preferred Inc. Realtors) 10 months ago

Herb,

Sounds like a combination of incompetence in the beginning and now misleading marketing.

Posted by Orange Co. Real Estate~Lynda Eisenmann, Broker-Owner,CRS,CDPE,GRI,SRES, Brea,CA (Preferred Home Brokers) 10 months ago

Cristina,

Sad truth is that this agent concentrates on listing short sales. It is just sad for the Sellers.

Posted by Downtown Portland Real Estate Broker~Herb Hamilton,CDPE (RE/MAX Preferred Inc. Realtors) 10 months ago

That is almost criminal on the part of the agent to think they can just play with the sales number and not get the banks in the loop.

Posted by Ed Silva CDPE, GRI, ABR, Real Estate Agent (RE/MAX Professionals, CT 203-206-0754) 10 months ago

Ed,

I am right there with you. Especially when it comes to Short Sales as the clock ticks down.

Posted by Downtown Portland Real Estate Broker~Herb Hamilton,CDPE (RE/MAX Preferred Inc. Realtors) 10 months ago

Herb,

You have to be kidding me!  In California, the mortgage amounts are public record as long as you can work an amortization table you can get a good idea.  How could she have a listing and not know?  You should send her a bill for your time.  In our MLS, if a short sale is not disclosed in the agent notes you get fined.  Period.

Tni 

Posted by Tni LeBlanc REALTOR® Santa Maria CA Homes Central Coast 10 months ago

Tni,

I like the fine idea. In oregon the rely totally on the Short Sale Addendum that notifies all parties that the sales price might not be agreeable to the Lien holders. Hence I see homes listed for as little as $59000 when you know that the will not sell for less than two or three times that much.

Posted by Downtown Portland Real Estate Broker~Herb Hamilton,CDPE (RE/MAX Preferred Inc. Realtors) 10 months ago

No matter what listing we take, I do like to know the seller's payoff balance.  Kudos to you for adding the clauses to the contract.  If the agent does not know about short sales, they should not be working them.

Posted by Kay Van Kampen–Springfield, Ozark, Nixa Greene County Missouri Real Estate Agent (RE/MAX Broker, RE/MAX Solutions) 10 months ago

Kay,

And that just about goes for all properties as well doesn't it. The liability that we take upon our shoulders for the representation of our clients in most cases largest purchase and or sale in their lifetimes is vastly under stated and appreciated.

Posted by Downtown Portland Real Estate Broker~Herb Hamilton,CDPE (RE/MAX Preferred Inc. Realtors) 10 months ago

To place a listing in the (Portland) Regional MLS a listing agent must mark it

"Short Sale? Yes" or "Short Sale? No".

To mark it either way not knowing whether it should be Yes or No is a violation of the RMLS rules.

Additionally, placing a listing in the multiple (and marking it, say) with "cash" as an acceptable term of sale could cause the seller (and/or the listing broker) to owe selling side commission.

Posted by Jim Hale - On the MOVE for You! Eugene - Springfield Oregon Real Estate (ACTIONAGENTS.NET) 10 months ago

Jim,

It is truly sad what we have to work with. I was out again today looking at Short Sales for an investor client. I came across three listings that were vacant and priced between $180,000 and $220,000. all three properties required agent to call before showing.

None of the agents answered any of their phones nor did the assistants who had left their numbers as well. I drove by all three properties and it was quite obvious that they were all quite vacant.

You just have to feel for these Seller's who may have had high hopes of selling.

Sadly they will probably fall into the foreclosure category all the while thinking that no one was interested in their home.

Posted by Downtown Portland Real Estate Broker~Herb Hamilton,CDPE (RE/MAX Preferred Inc. Realtors) 10 months ago

Oh Goodness, sounds like you're in for a real roller coaster ride.

Posted by Terri Poehler Coral Springs Florida (Re/Max Professionals Real Estate) 9 months ago

yes they look so nice but Foreclosures are such tough on to stomach.

Posted by Paul Gapski, 619-504-8999,#1 Resource SD Relo (Prudential Ca Realty) 8 months ago

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